Spiritual Chat 3 - Text Only Version About Spiritual Chat 3 Title: "Learning To Dialogue With Bawa" Date: February 12, 2002 Chat Between: Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) and Rumi Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. My love you, my dearest brothers and sisters. 1. Hearts Work Versus Mind Work Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:11 PM]: Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam 'alaykum. Hi. Rumismith. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Rumismith [4:14 PM]: Well, well, nice to hear from you. Anbu, Rumi Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:15 PM]: How is your "Hearts Work"? Rumismith [4:18 PM]: Hearts work is hard work. I was just reading our last dialogue where you told me: "Give up. Stop trying. Let go." [Note: The context for this was "Give up to God, to what God is doing within you". And "Stop trying to do it alone, to live as separate from God". And "Let go of the selfish self, and let God replace it with the selfless self" To read the last dialogue in full click on Spiritual Chat 2.] If I do that all that is happening is eating, sleeping & defecating. Apart from that, (all the) emotional stuff is clearing through (me) these days, to the point where I had to vomit because it became to heavy for the body. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:19 PM]: Great! Great! Great! Can a dog act like a dog? 2. Learn To Say The Father's Prayer Rumismith [4:22 PM]: Thank you! Right now I feel empty and wasted. Not having a real purpose. I started saying the prayer again: "O my Father, O my Shaikh, O my Guru, I need your love, please, please, please destroy me, and reveal You." So this is what I am holding unto now. [Note - the rest of the "Father's Prayer", that His Holiness has given us, is: "Destroy me as separate from You, and You as separate from me, and reveal me as One with You, and You as One with me." "Destroy the life of separation and differences that You have given me, and reveal the life of Oneness and Unity, of Justice and Truth, and of Compassion and Unity, that you have also given me.] Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:23 PM]: That is good, very good. But don't do it alone. Do it with Bawa. Rumismith [4:24 PM]: Yes, thank you. How are you? Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:25 PM]: Wonderful, my sweet loving sister Rumi, wonderful. Rumismith [4:27 PM]: We miss you here. We ask each other, have you seen or heard from Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen? Asmael Hackett is in the Hospital. He had the Gallbladder removed, came home & got a fever and is back in the hospital again with complications. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:28 PM]: Please give him my love and salaams, and ask Him to send me a letter or E-mail, and we can try and get better together. 3. Learn To Properly Use Bawa Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:29 PM]: Wisdom Point: A dog can't act like a dog because it is a dog. Only someone who isn't a dog can act like a dog. Like this, we need to use Bawa to deal with the world for us. He can act like He believes in the world because He doesn't believe in the world. His act will satisfy the world, and it will leave us alone. Yes? Another Wisdom Point: (not in original Chat) Also, only someone who truly believes in God can pray to God, so we can't do this work either. So we have to use Bawa to prayer to God for us, because He truly believes in God not in the world, while in truth we truly believe in the world, not in God. In this way, we must put Bawa between us and the world, and between us and God, allowing Him to properly take care of both sections within us, the left and the right. Then we will be peaceful. Read Chapter 3, "The World Within & The World Without", in the book, "The Wisdom of Man", especially page 56 to 60, for more on this. 4. Learn What Bawa Is Doing Within Us And Join Him In That Rumismith [4:30 PM]: I certainly will do that. Could you please ask Bawa to give me a message (concerning) what he is working on with me. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:32 PM]: Answer: He isn't. He is doing bigger and better things within you, like closing down the world of hell, re-opening the world of souls, and opening the kingdom of God. This should be your focus also, not on poor little Rumi. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:34 PM]: In this way, we need to join with Him in what He is doing, in His "selfless work", not try to pull Him into what we are doing, into our "selfish work". If we don't do this, and instead keep focused on our "selfish work", then He has to stop this important work within us, this "selfless work" within us, until we put down our "selfish work", until we realize that our "self-centered work" is of no importance, and put it down, and join Him in His "God-centered work" within us. Do you understand, my sweet sister Rumi? Rumismith [4:35 PM]: Al-hamdu lillah, this is what I need to hear. 5. The Purpose of Our Life Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:35 PM]: Al-hamdu lillah - a short story follows, if you have time. Rumismith [4:36 PM]: Yes, this is the time well spent. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:38 PM]: One day Louie's garage was falling apart, the roof started to leak and the rain came in and started to destroy everything in the garage, and Louie said to Bawa, "Bawa, what should I do? And Bawa said, "Nothing - everything is fine." This was very hard for Louie as he was a very responsible person and felt a great responsibility for the maintenance of his garage, and his house, and all of his stuff. But every time Louie asked Bawa what to do, Bawa kept on saying, "Nothing - everything is Ok" Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:40 PM]: This went on for months and months, until finally Louie gave up his garage to Bawa, and made it His responsibility, not just in words but with my gut, because that is where Louie was really living, in his stomach. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:41 PM]: Finally, after 6 months Louie had completely forgotten about his garage and all of the stuff in it. Then one day Bawa said to Louie. "Now we must fix up the garage, and put it to some use". Within a few month the garage was completely repaired and turned over to one of the fellowship boys for use as a wood shop, which literally saved his life. Then Louie asked Bawa what was the point, and Bawa said, "Like the garage, you must let your whole life fall apart as you know it and let it be my responsibility as I know it, you must be done with it, and completely forget it. Then and only then can I put it to some use". This is how it must work, Bawa can only work on us when we are done with us, when we let it all fall apart as we know it. Only then can He solve the problem of us. For as Bawa teaches us, "The Shaikh has to continually test the child. He must test every quality of the child, prodding him to see his reaction. With each word and every action , the Shaikh pricks the child to see how he will react. If the reaction is good, then the Shaikh takes that child deeper into Himself, saying, 'This child will turn our right'". Do you understand, my sweet sister Rumi? Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:46 PM]: Our life is not our accomplishments, even on the path, it is getting pulled deeper and deeper into God. But God can only pull us in, when we have given up holding onto the world of illusion that is our life. We must make light of ourselves, of what we are, of what we do, of what we think, of everything. It is all false, it is all ok, it is all over, what is next. 6. Learn To Become Peaceful Rumismith [4:49 PM]: Yes, what a beautiful point. I have been thinking about this lately and realized that I cannot truly (say), from the depth of my heart, " I am done with this life, take it, finish it". Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:51 PM]: My love you Rumi. You are a very, very good child. We all need to treat ourselves, and what happens to us, in a much less serious way, and treat Bawa, and what He is doing within us, in a much more serious way. What you said is Ok. Remember, we cannot do any of this, any of what needs to be done, but God can. So it is like waiting for the cake to rise. Getting upset with the cake isn't going to make it rise any faster, is it? Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:54 PM]: So getting upset with ourselves is like getting upset with the cake. It is exactly the same. And the result is exactly the same. Become peaceful by realizing that everything is Ok, and when the thought comes otherwise, say "Bawa - help me", and He will. In this way, let these negative thoughts come again, and again, and again, and each time they come do the same thing, say, "Bawa - help me." There is nothing else to do. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:55 PM]: Only God is Great. Our life has to become the living affirmation of Al-hamdu lillah and Allahu Akbar. That is why we have a life, to affirm God and deny everything else. 7. Make God's Intention Our Search Rumismith [4:55 PM]: True, Allahu Akbar. It has to do with intention, what should I intend? I think you answered my question. Muhaiyaddeen786 [4:58 PM]: Bawa teaches us that we must "Make God's intention our search". So in each thing, hand it to God, with the intention that God do with it what is His intention (for it), not ours. So, we don't intend anything. We give up "intending", as we give up "doing", as we give up "thinking", as we give up "knowing". We hand everything that God has handed to us, which is everything that comes before us, back to God, with the intention that it belongs to Him, and with the faith, certitude, and determination that He will do with it what needs to be done with it. In this way, we get out of the loop, and put God into the loop, in everything. That is how we walk back to God, by getting God to walk back to God for us. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:00 PM]: That is how we pray, by getting God to pray. That is how we overcome all of the things within us that need to be overcome, by getting God to do this work (because only God can do this work within us). Rumismith [5:01 PM]: These beautiful words are melting my heart, what can I say? 8. Getting Our Mind To Sit Down Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:01 PM]: Al hamdu lillah. And God will do it, if we just stop trying to do it separate from God, if we just stop making it our work, preventing Him in this way, from bringing our life to completion within Him. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:02 PM]: It is very simple, but our mind and desire make it difficult, and literally impossible, because they transfer what God has to do, to us, and since we can't do it, we fail, and fail, and fail, getting more and more sick in the process, more and more distant from God, who is the only cure for all of our sicknesses. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:04 PM]: But instead, say "no" to Rumi and "yes" to God, "no" to Rumi and "yes" to God. That is how we make it through the night, that is how we walk, that is how we talk, we learn, we know, and we accomplish, by letting God do it, by making it His problem, by refusing to let it be our problem, as separate from God, as separate from each other, or as separate from the Creation of God, because in truth we are all One. Because in truth we are the One problem, and the One solution, and that One problem is God's problem, not ours as separate from God, and that One solution is God. Our work is to realize this, and in everything give it to God, give the One problem, to the only One who can solve it, which is God. This is how we become peaceful, by gradually settling back into God through the realization that everything is perfect, because God is in charge, and God can do anything, so whatever needs to be done will be done by God - guaranteed. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:06 PM]: Then our mind will sit down. This is Bawa functioning within you. This is your wisdom speaking to you, when you act in that way, when you treat Rumi in that way, when you treat your thoughts in that way, that is your wisdom, when you put God first, that is your wisdom way. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:06 PM]: Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My love you my sweet sister Rumi. Rumismith [5:07 PM]: Yes, it is our negative thoughts, when the heart closes, when we see someone we have an issue with etc. We prevent God from being there. God willing, next time when this happens I will be able to say, "no" to Rumi, but "yes" to God. 9. Practice Not Being There Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:09 PM]: Yes. And the way we do that is preparation, by "practicing not being there". It is all a matter of focus. When you go to bed, tell God, "Enough, enough, enough". Let what you have experienced of life in the world be enough, and don't want any more. Let your life "as you know it" end. When you wake up, tell God, "This is your day". And in this way, don't have any plans for the day, let it be revealed within you as God wills, for His Purpose, not for your purpose. Let it happen, don't orchestrate it, and praise God as it happens. Let yourself be surprised by the Guru and God, as a little child is surprised by his mother and father. Finally, when you see someone coming toward you, say, "Bawa - let the thoughts be yours, let the intention be yours, let the duty and actions and qualities be Yours, let the words be Your, let me die in You." Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:12 PM]: In this way, we have to get out of the business of living in the world, and start to live in the heart, start to live on the lap of God as Bawa teaches us "What we do not know", as Bawa tells us the story of True Man within God and of God within True Man. One day Bawa told us that we made two mistakes in our life. The first mistake was learning how to feed ourselves, and the second mistake was learning how to take care of ourselves. And because of these two mistakes, we have now learned to live here, and because of that, we will never leave here, until we die. This is what we must now un-learn, we must un-learn what we now know and do, so we can leave here, and we can only leave here as we came here. We must go back to being a baby sitting on our father's lap while our mother feeds us. Whatever we need, ask for it, don't take over your life and get it for yourself. Make Bawa your Mother and God your Father and give up your life, as you know it, as you have learned to live it, to Him, and let Him live it, as He knows it, let Him redefine it as the property of God. Then it will become valuable. 10. Learn To Dialogue With Bawa Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:15 PM]: Don't do anything before asking Bawa. For example, when you are hungry, don't just go to the kitchen and eat. Instead, say, "Bawa, something within me is hungry, what should I do?" And in this way, bring Bawa into your life, join your life of separation and differences, your life of "separate from" with His life of oneness and unity, of justice and truth, of compassion and unity, with His life of "oneness with". Then wait. If you don't get an answer, then come up with some things you could do, like go to the kitchen, or go to bed hungry, and ask Bawa again, "Bawa, should I go to the kitchen or should I go to bed hungry?" And then wait again. If you don't get an answer. Pick the one that feels right and say, "Bawa, Is it all right to go to the kitchen and eat?" And then wait. And if it feels Ok, then do that, accepting it as the answer coming from Him within you. If not, then come up with a new list of possibilities, and repeat the process, until you find something that feels Ok within you to do, Ok within your heart to do, not within your head to do, not within your mind and desire to do. Gradually, this process will becomes more and more automatic, and as this child experienced, the list will become shorter and shorter, and the final selection will be clearer and clearer, and come quicker and quicker, until you and the Shaikh move almost as one, each anticipating the other, like a old married couple. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:15 PM]: But no matter what the outcome, don't give up this dialogue with Bawa, that is your protection from Rumi, from the mind and desire of Rumi. Do you understand? Rumismith [5:17 PM]: Al-hamdu lillah, Yes I understand. 11. Re-establish Our Direct Connection With God Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:18 PM]: This is the work we must all do, and only this work. For we must realize, without the slightest doubt, that there is no other work to do, because nothing else is wrong, nothing else is broken. When we came here, to this world, we had a direct connection with God, but now it is broken, so the only work is re-establishing our direct connection with God, by establishing our dialogue with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, which in truth is the wisdom surrounding our soul, which in truth is the guardian of the soul within us. The guardian of the soul within us which came with the soul to this world, to this school of contrast, so the soul through contrast, through the contrast of purity and impurity, could understand itself which is purity, and through this understanding join with the wisdom that came with it, to find and join with the Nur Muhammad, the Light of wisdom, which was placed on the forehead of Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him), which is the original palace of the soul, the six-span body within our eight-span body. And having used our wisdom to understand and discard the two spans that now cover our original six-span body, the two-spans of sorrow, torpor, and the fires of hell, to join with the Nur Muhammad, which is the body of the soul, to live as True Man, as the oneness of God and His Creation, as the hereafter or akhirah, allowing the soul within the soul, which is God, to be revealed within True Man. This is the work we must all do, not try to continue living in this eight-span house of hell which is now our body, in the world of separation and differences that we now see as existing "outside" of us, just awaiting the angel of death to come and take our soul away still buried within the lives of "separation from", which then become our "suffering in the grave". Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:20 PM]: As long as this dialogue with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us is going on, everything that can be done, to move our life forward on the path of God, is being done, but whenever this dialogue is not going on, is broken, no real work gets done, no real progress on the path of God is occurring, no matter what "we", as separate from Bawa and God, are doing. So the dialogue with Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) is everything, and anything else, no matter how exalted it may seem, is of no real value, and is only a temporary thing, is only a distraction from the real work that Bawa and God are doing within us, which is to reveal True Man within the Creation of God within us, and to reveal God within True Man within us. This is the heart of the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), this learning to dialogue with Bawa within us. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:20 PM]: And our mind and desire, which is the instrument of separation and differences within us, has one goal and only one goal within us, to break this dialogue with wisdom, with the guardian of our soul for this age, to break the work of re-establishing our direct connection with God, by establish a dialogue with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, because only within this broken direct connection with God can it exist, can it do its thing, which is sin, which is the sins of separation and differences, which is the opposite of God, truth, and goodness. Rumismith [5:21 PM]: Bawa heard my cry for help & send me his helping hand through you. These instructions are very clear and much needed. 12. Our Mind & Desire Verses Our Wisdom - two different agenda Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:22 PM]: We are One. That is the truth of us. This is as much for this Child as for that Child, because there is only One Child, the One Child of God for this age, this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). So the work of our mind and desire is one thing, and one thing alone, to keep us turned away from God, from our direct connection with God, to keep us thinking of something else other than God, to keep us thinking about "us" as separate from God, or about "us" in relationship to this person, or that person, or about our "stuff", about our body, our garage, our house, our wife, our husband, or our lack of these things. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:24 PM]: It doesn't matter what our mind distracts us with, it is successful as long as we stay distracted, as long as we stay separated from God, as long as our direct connection with God stays broken. Therefore, the only cure is our dialogue with God, is re-establishing our direct connection with God, and for us in this age, that is our dialogue, our direct connection with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us. In this way, "The more we talk to Bawa the more we will talk to Bawa, and the less we talk to Bawa the less we will talk to Bawa." Write this down, and put it on your wall, and then take it into your heart, as the truth of your life, my sweet sister Rumi, and then read it every day, and then live it everyday, and then become it everyday. This is the path to oneness with God for this age, this is how in this age we walk from "separation from" back into "oneness with", from which we have all come, by realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) which God has personally placed within each of us, surrounding the soul of each of us, as the guardian of the soul of each of us, as the Guru of God within each of us, as the one who tells the story of True Man within God and of God within True Man within each of us, if we will but let Him. Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. 13. Understand The Weakening And Fall of Adam Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:25 PM]: This is how it works. It is just that simple. Therefore, everything that we do is but an opportunity to dialogue with Bawa, to affirm and demonstrate and strengthen our direct connection with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us. This is the only value of what we do, of anything that we do, whether it be prayers, or duty, or watching television, playing with our children, making love to our wife, or discoursing about God, His prophets, and His revelations, whether it be as written in the Jewish Torah, the Hindi Puranas, the Christian Bible, or the Islamic Qur'an, the value of any of this is our dialogue with Bawa within us, is our direct connection to the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us. In this way, the only value of anything we do in the world is our on-going dialogue with Bawa within us about all that God has personally placed within us, before we came here, and about all that is now seen through our ignorance as existing "outside" of us, about all that has grown within us since we came here, but which in truth, when seem through our wisdom, when seen through the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us, is again seen as existing within us, is again seen as the 18,000 universes of God within us. Is again seen as it was originally seen by Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him) within us, before the spit of satan, before the sperm of our father was injected into the birth canal of our mother, which is the original weakening of Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him) within us, when we lost our purity and our shukr, our contentment and gratitude, to our dog of desire. And the subsequent fall of Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him) within us from the grace of God, which is our birth into this world through the womb of our mother, into this earth world where we have gradually lost our true consciousness, our wisdom, our direct connection with God, to our mind of separation and differences, which is a demon. And by puberty we have become but a slave to our mind and desire, to that demon and dog, and have grown for "them" within us the world of the demon and dog, which is a disease to our soul, which is now the two-spans house of hell that cover the original six-span house of heaven, known as Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him), which was the original palace of the soul prepared by God within us, which has now become an island of hell within us, where we have become one with our mind and desire, with that demon of the mind and that dog of desire, where we have become one with the life of separation and differences that we now experience as existing "outside" of us, as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in our life. 14. Avoid Becoming The People of The Book For Your Age Such is our fate, without the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) which God has personally placed surrounding our soul, which if awakened by that same life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) will do battle with the enemy of our soul, with our mind and desire, with that demon and dog that have grown very strong within us, if "we" but join with Him in that battle, and having separated "us" from all that separates us from God, our Soul, and Goodness, having cured Himself of "us", liberate our soul from the cross of this elemental body, join with it, and find and join with the Nur Muhammad, with the Light of Wisdom, which is the body of the soul, making our life eternal. And in this way, closing down the world of hell within us, re-opening the world of souls within us, and opening the kingdom of God within us. This is our true heritage, our true birth right, not what we are currently experiencing as "who we are", as "where we are", and as "what is happening" in our life. We have both, "separation from" and "oneness with", the choice is ours, not God's. God has already made His choice, and He chose "oneness with" us. Now we must chose "oneness with" God, and we do that by realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within us. There is no other way for this age, this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). All other ways are wrong, either they have always been wrong or are now wrong for this age, for this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). For as the Jews of Moses, as the Children of Moses, at the time of Moses were right, in the age of Moses (may the blessings of God be upon Him), so the Jews at the time of Jesus, who become the Children of Jesus, were right, putting down what had come before, in the age of Moses, as now wrong, embracing what had now come for them, as the teaching of Jesus, in the age of Jesus (may the blessings of God be upon Him), as now right for them. But the Jews of Moses, who lived in the age of Jesus, who did not become the Children of Jesus, and did not take the life and teaching of Jesus (may the blessings of God be upon Him) as the gift of God for their age, were wrong. As the Jews of Moses, and the Christians of Jesus, who lived in the age of Muhammad (may God be pleased with all of His Prophets), who did not become the Children of Muhammad, and did not take the life and teaching of Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of God be upon Him) as the gift of God for their age, were wrong, and became know as the "People of the Book" as spoken of in the Holy Qur'an, that came in the age of Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of God be upon Him) As the Jews of Moses, and the Christians of Jesus, and the Muslims of Muhammad, who now live in the age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with all of His Prophets and Qutbs), and do not take the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) as the gift of God for their age, are also wrong, and have all become the "People of the Book" as spoken of in the life and teaching of Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of God be upon Him) and in the life and teaching of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him). As the Children of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) who do not build the well of God's grace in their own hearts, but instead worship the pond built and left behind by His Holiness, are also in danger of becoming the "People of the Book" in this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), because it is only the living presence of God that is God, not the things of the world that originally came in the presence of God, but now only point to that presence, now only point to some historical presence of God in the world. Know this my dearest loving brothers and sisters, know the difference between the sifat of Creation and the Sirr of God, between the form of the Creation of God and the Secret of God hidden by God within His Creation. 15. Becoming A Little Child Again Do we have time for another short story? Rumismith [5:26 PM]: Yes, please. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:28 PM]: Louie was at work one day, and he got hungry, so he said to Bawa, "Bawa - what should I do, there is something within me that is hungry? And Bawa said, "Go have something to eat". And Louie said, "What should I eat?" And Bawa said, "Go to the candy machine and get a candy bar." So Louie went to the candy machine. When Louie got to the candy machine, Louie stopped and again said to Bawa, "What kind of candy should I get? And Bawa said, "Get a Hershey Bar". So Louie got a Hershey Bar, and then Louie said to Bawa, "Should I eat it all now? And Bawa said, "Yes". The Wisdom Point: Louie could have done all of this without Bawa, but at each step of the way, Louie pulled Bawa into existence, pulled the life of "oneness with" into existence within Louie, by turning to Bawa within Louie, affirming "His presence" within Louie, and in this way, forcing Louie, as "separate from", out of existence within Louie, by rejecting "Louie's presence" within Louie, by turning to "Bawa's presence" within Louie, as "oneness with", as "Louie's presence" within Louie, making the hunger that was felt by Louie, and what to do about it, Bawa's problem, not Louie's problem, and making how this problem was handled Bawa's problem, not Louie's problem. In this way, we must use our wisdom, we must use our Shaikh, to pull God into existence within us, from within our innermost heart, from within our soul within our innermost heart, we must establish "God's presence" within us by rejecting "our presence", as separate from God, within us. And we do this by stepping out of existence in each situation where "our existence", as "separate from", is expected by our life of "separation from", and in this way, forcing God to step forward within us, as the life of "oneness with" within us, forcing God into existence within us, forcing the life of God within us, which is our soul-life, into existence within us, by making room for it, because in truth it is always there within us, because it was and is the original life within us and it has never left. It can't leave or we would die, it was only covered over by the other, by the life of "separation from" that grew over it in our ignorance of the original, so through contrast, through the contrast of the "separation from" and the "oneness with", the original life, the soul-life, the life of "oneness with", could come to understand the "oneness with", and having understood itself never allow itself to be covered over again. This is the process of the liberation of our soul, by forcing ourselves as "separate from", as the life of separation and differences within us, out of existence within us, off the stage, and in the process revealing within us ourselves as the original, as the "oneness with", as the life of the soul. And in this way, allowing us to identify and reject the 5 separate elemental lives within us, the 5 separate consciousness within us, that masquerade as 1 consciousness, as "who we are", as but the original 5 unified elemental lives within us that have fallen out of the state of the kalimah, out of the state of the living affirmation of the unity of Allah, which God created and used to create the original body of man known as Adam (may the blessings of God be upon Him) within us. And in this way, revealing them as the consciousness of "separation from" within us, but as not "who we are", and revealing their world of darkness, of separation and differences within us, as what we see as existing "outside" of us, but as not "where we are", and as not "what is happening" in our life. But rather to see and understand them as a foreign substance, a foreign place, and a foreign activity, that has surreptitiously taken over our life of grace, as the darkness of us that is covering the light of us, as the state of "separation from" within us covering the state of "oneness with" within us, allowing the life of God within us, the life of the soul within us, to differentiate itself, to separate itself from the 5 elemental lives of separation within us, to differentiate the "oneness with" from the "separation from", allowing it for the first time, to understand in truth "who it is", and "where it is", and "what is happening" in its life, to understand that in truth it is Three, not the illusory life of 1, and certainly not the 5 separate lives that have given us the illusion of 1 life. To understand that it is Purity, the consciousness of Purity, and the Light of Purity, that it is the Triple Flame of God - Ya Allah, Ya Rasul, Ya Muhaiyaddeen - that emerged out of the Oneness of God within us, in order to understand that Oneness of God within us, and having understood that Oneness, to merge back into that Oneness, from which it came. And by this understanding of the soul within us, to allow "That" to happen within us, to allow the One within us to finish becoming the Three within us, so the Three within us can finish coming to an understanding of the One within us, and through that understanding of the One, again become the One within us, but this time as the One within the One within us, allowing True Prayer to occur within us, the prayer of the One to the One who is, the prayer of Allahu Ill Allahu. And all of this takes place, ever so naturally within us, when we step back in each situation so God can step forward within us in each situation. This is how it works. This is the true value of our life, not anything else. For His Holiness teaches us that this is the "Sound of God", "The One becoming the Three and the Three becoming the One, the One becoming the Three and the Three becoming the One, the One becoming the Three and the Three becoming the One." This is the path of God, my sweet sister Rumi, that has grown within the heart of this child, sitting on the lap of God, as Bawa "teaches us what we do not know". May we both do it like that. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:33 PM]: Enough? Rumismith [5:36 PM]: Yes, enough. Al hamdu lillah. I will print it out. I feel so rich now. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:38 PM]: Me too. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessings of God be upon us all. Please give my love and salaams to all of our brothers and sisters, and tell them that Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) loves them very, very much, all of them. Rumismith [5:39 PM]: Yes we will do that. My love to you, Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:40 PM]: Al-hamdu lillah. See you all soon. Rumismith [5:41 PM]: Yes, God willing. Anbu Rumi Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:42 PM]: Maybe you could arrange for a ride for this child to the ship some day, that would be very helpful. Rumismith [5:44 PM]: Yes, I certainly would like to do that. How could I let you know who & when someone is picking you up? Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:46 PM]: Give me a call and leave a message if no one answers, or send me an E-mail at Muhaiyaddeen786@aol.com. Also, you can use the Instant Messages IM, I am usually on the computer a lot during the day. Rumismith [5:48 PM]: Ok, do you have any preferred day or time? Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:49 PM]: No - any day is fine, they all seem to be the same any more. What a wonder this God of ours is. And any time is also Ok. Time is also becoming the same. What a great wonder this God of ours is. Do it with your heart, not your head. Let Bawa pick the time, the day, and the way. Rumismith [5:52 PM]: God willing, it will happen that way. Much anbu. Rumi. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:53 PM]: Yes. We all belong to Him, not to us, so let Him deal with it. It was in my heart to ask, and only He knows why. Rumismith [5:55 PM]: I am waiting for you to give the closing salam so I can print it out. Muhaiyaddeen786 [5:57 PM]: Ok. Closing Salams follows. May all the peace and blessings of God be upon all of us, all of the Children of God for this age, this age of Bawa Muhaiyaddeen, this age of the Rahim, when God pulls all of His Children back into Himself, from which they all came. Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen. Al hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Rumismith [5:58 PM]: Al hamdu lillah, Allahu Akbar, Amen. Muhaiyaddeen786 [6:53 PM]: Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Al-salam alaykum. Hi Rumismith. We have returned. My sweet sister of my heart. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler) Rumismith [6:57 PM]: Yes, the honey was so sweet that I can't get enough. Muhaiyaddeen786 [6:59 PM]: Wonderful. You are a very nice person to be with in my heart. Your heart is always open to your little brother Louie, and that has and continues to be of great help in my life. 16. Our Mind And Desire Verses Our Wisdom - two different strengths Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:02 PM]: How is our sister, the German doctor doing? Rumismith [7:04 PM]: Al hamdu lillah. Yes I do feel I can be real with you, that I don't have to pretend or protect myself and that is good practice for me. I came back because my printer is not working well & earlier I could only print the first page so I am having another try at it. The German doctor is in Germany and we don't communicate together. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:05 PM]: She is a real sweetheart but, like the rest of us, she has had a lot of difficulty in getting past her karma. Rumismith [7:08 PM]: Yes, she thinks she has to do it all. God bless her. It was hard for me when she was here, because I always felt she was in competition with me and I am not a competitive person. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:10 PM]: She is not in competition with you, but with herself, that is our karma. We saw her on a video tape talking to Bawa. It was a question and answer session. I don't remember the question, but she shared a very important point about the nature of our mind and desire. She told Bawa that trusting God made her feel weak. Rumismith [7:10 PM]: She also brought a lot of karma up in me which, though painful, was a grace for me. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:12 PM]: That is the grace of each other, not to be friends, or to be enemies, but to elevate the relationship up to what you have just said, as a vehicle for Bawa to cure Himself of "us". Rumismith [7:14 PM]: I like that, the relationship being a vehicle (for a higher purpose), it takes out the personal, the "I" thought. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:15 PM]: In another way, it makes it truly personal, which is our direct relationship with God, not artificially personal, a personal which gets us caught up in each others karma, making us treat the other person as separate from us, as having a separate life, as having separate karma, when in truth there is only one false life, which is the one common karma in all of us, and only one true life, which is the life of the one soul within all of us, the life of God within all of us. This is the work of our mind and desire, which tries to constantly do this to us, to show us other people as separate from us, as different from us, as having a separate and different life from us, as having a separate and different karma from us, in order to keep us separated from God, from each other, and from the Creation of God within us, so it can live a life of sin, so it can live a life of separation and differences, which is sin. Rumismith [7:19 PM]: True, this is a topic I have a lot to learn about, but for now the call for Isha prayer came and I have a calling to go and prostrate. God willing we will see each other soon. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:22 PM]: Yes - remember to invite Bawa to be the one who prays, and offer yourself up as His prayer mat. Anbu - Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler). Wisdom Point: Back to what our sister said to Bawa. She told Bawa that trusting in God made her feel weak. This is the heart of overcoming our mind and desire, to realize that our mind and desire, these agents of our life of separation and differences, are continually trying to give us the illusion of strength, but that in truth only God is strong. Rumismith [7:26 PM]: Yes, my mind and desire are so weak they can't even cope with life anymore, and it is frustrating to me. May be there is a point there why they feel so weak. Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:28 PM]: Because in truth they are weak. Instead of feeling badly about this condition, praise God for it, realize that this is progress, that their being weakened, and your feeling that weakness is good, not bad, and praise God for it. If you do that, when you feel their weakness, then God will make them even weaker. But if you don't get on the bandwagon for weakening them, what can God do. He will have to stop weakening them. Get it? In this way, let yourself end, become peaceful in your own ending, let the weakness mature into death, death of the "selfish self", which is the birth of the "selfless self". Rumismith [7:30 PM]: Yes, I understand. Much, much love. Rumi Muhaiyaddeen786 [7:33 PM]: Closing Salams follows: May all the peace and blessings of God be upon all of the Children of God for this age, that they all come and embrace the life and teaching of our Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) as the gift of God for their life. Amen, Amen, Ya Rabil Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahman Alameen. Amen, Amen, Ya Rahim Alameen. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Rumismith [7:34 PM]: Ameen. End of Spiritual Chat 3 - Text Only Version - ............................... Spiritual Chat 3: or |
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